[devwastaken]

And whom pays for fixing it? Downtimes of self hosted systems using external software can be far longer. GitHub, unlike Amazon and friends, doesn't lie about their downtime. Every saas has hundreds of downtime instances across the board every month. Some are small enough you don't see them. Yet the services still work exceptionally well - and when they don't they get fixed in a quick manner. What takes them an hour would take most private orgs a day.

[AlexandrB]

> GitHub, unlike Amazon and friends, doesn't lie about their downtime.

Are you kidding? The last 2 incidents were called "degraded performance". Where "degraded" meant I would get nothing but 500 errors accessing GitHub.com either via browser or git itself for the duration of the outage. How is this not lying?

[everfrustrated]

GitHub is notorious for only noticing outages once the USA morning starts.

If you're using GitHub in Europe or Asia it's not uncommon for GitHub to be offline for many hours before they acknowledge anying.