[jckahn]

I get the hate against snaps. I tried really hard to give them a chance, but in my experience it’s a generally poor user experience. What I don’t get is why people feel like they need to leave Ubuntu because of it. Flatpak et al. work just as well on Ubuntu as anything else. Simply not using snaps on Ubuntu seems like a simpler solution than abandoning the distro altogether (assuming you don’t distro hop for fun).

[suyjuris]

There is something to be said for leaving a platform if you do not like the direction it seems to be headed in, even if you could compensate for the issues in the short term. Otherwise you might sign up for years of incrementally increasing misery.

Once Windows installed updates against their users' preference I switched my main desktop to Linux – this was a significant amount of work but has saved me a lot of frustration over the past years. Similarly, once I experienced UI stutter in Gnome and noticed that it moved towards Javascript, I switched to i3. Again, huge setup cost (e.g. I had to implement alt-tab behaviour myself), but things ran smoothly since.

[jckahn]

That’s fair. My experience with Ubuntu is that it’s basically fine for what I need a distro to do. I’d like to stay on this train because at the end of the day I just need my computer to work reliably. Ubuntu is not perfect, but it’s the devil I know. :)

[ppseafield]

For me, snaps auto-update without my input, and apt will install snaps without telling you they're snaps. So my assumption that my computer only updates when I tell it to no longer holds.

[haunter]

>What I don’t get is why people feel like they need to leave Ubuntu because of it

Because how would you otherwise end up with 999 different Linux distros? I bet someone already working on the Ubuntu-sans-snap distro (if not already exist)

[timbit42]

It's called Linux Mint.