[nvegater]

There are no hypotheticals. It is clear and understood that the civil Russian population will suffer the sanctions the most. I don't understand what you mean by calling that hypothetical collateral damage.

Sanctions making Putin retreat seems more hypothetical to me. Targeting civilians on purpose to try to change a dictators mind is naive and it underestimates the power of a dictatorship inside its own country. Of course seizing foreign assets of Russian oligarchs has to be done, quitting projects with Russian companies as well and many other things, just don't try to affect the middle-low Russian class to create difficulties, it will only mess with the people and it wont damage Putin's regime.

I also want maximum damage on Russia. Offer Middle-low class Russians something WAY better than what they cant get in their country, and make it easy for them to go outside of Russia to get it. IMO that causes more damage than the sanctions (short and long term) but we will never know.

[BizarroLand]

You can't put hunger on credit. If economic sanctions cause the people to start missing meals they will turn on Putin. This is another facet of war, something that would allow Nato to kill Putin without getting their hands dirty.

He knows it as well, which is why he's saber rattling his nukes.

[nvegater]

People in Russia will not starve, they're just getting poorer without reaching hunger (can cite some sources if you want). Of course letting them starve (for too long) is the end for Putin, so of course he won't let that happen and it won't happen with the current measures.