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by bko 1548 days ago
> Most of the people I know who turned down higher-ranked schools for lower-ranked ones because of money regret it.

What do you base this on? What about people who went to higher-ranked schools that regret having 100k+ in debt when they graduate. College helps you get your first job, but after that I don't think anyone cares in most fields (true in engineering from my experience, as long as you have a technical degree and even then you can get by). A lot of the difference in outcomes is selection bias. You should look to see how someone who got in a selective school but didn't go compares to someone who got in and went. I've read that the differences are not that stark.

> You will make a lot of life-long friends in college, and you will just be exposed to a different caliber of person on average at mit.

I don't know. I went to a mid-tier state school and my friends were just people I happened to be lumped together in housing. Is it "optimal"? No, but I enjoyed it. My friend crew consisted of a stoner, a very religious dude, a meat head and a Brooklyn hipster. I don't know, I liked it like that. None of them really taught me anything (wtf does an 18 year old know), but it might be different in technical fields. Both have trade offs.

> On the other hand, I think the differences in career outcomes on average are small, although I wouldn’t be surprised if the probability of starting a company with any given level of success x is 10 times higher for mit alum than Z school alums

It'll probably help you raise money, but I think being ex-[FAANG] would be better at least now. And raising money is not the same as starting and running a successful business. FAANG has considerably broadened their outreach and hire outside of top schools. I have a non-technical degree from a mid-tier state school and interviewed with a few FAANGs, more than once.

> In my opinion, the lifetime of friends and network effects is most of the benefit, and not to be underestimated. You only live once.

From what the author stated, I think he would have more experiences from going to school Z with his friends and family. Unless he really wants to get away from everyone, which doesn't sound like the case.

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> College helps you get your first job, but after that I don't think anyone cares in most fields

If you have a degree from Harvard/Stanford/MIT/etc, this is not true. Those name brands will help you for decades after. Plus they will also help your college friends, so your network will be much better than if you went to a state school.

When we hired, we were not interested in brand names of schools applicants went to as long as they were out of school a few years and had a few jobs. In fact, I think that would be a red-flag for places I don't want to work. For instance, I remember filling out a job app at DE Shaw that asked for school and SAT and LSAT/GMAT scores along with GPA. It sounded like a terrible place to work.

In regards to a network, unfortunately 10 years out of school I don't keep in touch with many people I went to college with. We just went in different directions and many of my relationships were relationships out of convenience. Maybe others had different experiences.

I know people who went to caltech and Stanford in the 90s. They’re still in touch with a lot of people from then.

These schools generally are different.

> I went to a mid-tier state school and my friends were just people I happened to be lumped together in housing. Is it "optimal"? No, but I enjoyed it. My friend crew consisted of a stoner, a very religious dude, a meat head and a Brooklyn hipster. I don't know, I liked it like that. None of them really taught me anything (wtf does an 18 year old know), but it might be different in technical fields. Both have trade offs.

Yeah, my ug friend group was similar. It’s completely valid to have different preferences in what one wants out of life. However, I personally did feel much happier / interested later on in life being in friendgroups where everyone had some kind of serious career aspiration.

I agree, but college just wasn't that for me and I don't think it could have been. It was more about exploration. I didn't have the drive and focus I have now. I didn't really get that until mid 20s, about 5 years after I graduated.