[sph]

> The Linux Desktop deserves better than GNOME

Speak for yourself. I want the macOS lite experience on Linux, not the Windows lite one, thank you very much.

GNOME at least tries to have a cohesive and consistent design, instead of the whole kitchen sink approach of Windows and KDE.

To be fair I have a great deal of appreciation and respect for KDE, but its users are quick to shit on GNOME whenever they can. Nobody is forcing it on you.

[bmn__]

> Nobody is forcing it on you.

But is that really the case? </TIK>

Gnome/Gtk developers have sabotaged integration efforts since many years. The negative attitude against their products does not come à propos nothing. It is deserved as it follows naturally from their anti-user and anti-cooperative behaviour.

[sph]

Quit calling it anti user. Am I not a user, or I do not count as much as other Linux users because I like GNOME?

There is absolutely nothing wrong in a DE wanting to go their own way instead of supporting any type of weird crazy configuration users might ask for. I want an opinionated desktop environment, I don't go complain to KDE devs that they should get rid of menus and adopt a headerbar because I dislike menus. Yet the opposite happens every time.

GNOME is exploring a UI paradigm different from any other else, and some really dislike them because of it. How dare they, the hubris of these developers!

[bmn__]

Quit playing a victim and misdirecting/mischaracterising the points I wrote about.

This isn't about "exploring a UI paradigm", this is about users of the other DEs actually being treated badly by the Gnome/Gtk developers. The criticism will continue until they adopt the mindset that is prevalent in the F/OSS community and stop offloading their externalities, so that a user's choice of an opinionated DE does not negatively affect another user's choice of a configurable DE.

[jahlove]

> Nobody is forcing it on you.

Funny, my company actually is forcing me to use Gnome once we migrate to CentOS 8. Something about how RHEL is no longer supporting other desktop managers and it's too difficult to harden other ones. I am a Mate user and am not pleased.

[silon42]

To each it's own... I strongly prefer Windows (<=7) to MacOS UI.