[syshum]

The fact that people believe mandates are good public policy is honestly unbelievable to me. To be clear I not debating the effectiveness of mask but the effectiveness of mask mandates which have shown many many many times to be unenforceable and ineffective.

That said even if they were shown to be effective I would still oppose them on basis human rights ground. I do not believe it is the proper role of government in general, and certainly not the US Federal government to mandate what I wear when I leave my home. At most that should be a local matter, but even though I would advocate against it in my local government. However is certainly has no constitutional basis under our system of government for the federal government to impose such a mandate

[dylan604]

>I would still oppose them on basis human rights ground

I hear this as an argument against left and right, but when I ask why it is different from the vaccine requirements for public schools I typically get a "it just is" response. Here's hoping someone might have a better response to why this vaccine is different in that aspect.

[procombo]

> I typically get a "it just is" response.

I doubt that. I couldn't STOP hearing the arguments last year. Not trying to be 'smart', but just believe a minimal effort to understand an opposing view gets you there.

> hoping someone might have a better response

Regarding required vaccines for grade-school kids at public schools in the U.S.:

1. Aren't actually forced. You can opt out in several ways.

2. The diseases they treat have a much higher death/hospitalization and/or transmissibility rate among children.

3. We better understand the diseases they treat.

4. Approvals for vaccines were not given under emergency order.

5. Meet the CDC's pre-2019 definition of 'vaccine'.

6. Side affects are published, well known, and readily available.

That's just off the top of my head. And I assume you and I agree on most things.

[sokoloff]

I'm pretty sure that the school vaccine mandates are state mandates, not federal mandates.

There are many things that I think are a good idea, but that I oppose the Federal government taking the power to do. I don't object to my state or city taking that same power.

[jdminhbg]

Parent is talking about mask mandates, not vaccine mandates.