[oblio]

> I do respect and idolize the winners.

Don't do that, it's toxic. Everything becomes about winning and losing and that's how you end up with an opioid epidemic.

[seibelj]

Is there no one on earth you respect, historical or current? Those are the “winners” in the context of my comment.

Either you respect people who accomplished great things, or you don’t. I choose to respect and appreciate the fine things created by hyper talented people.

[oblio]

I respect many things many people did but I've found that from many aspects the same people were sometimes horrible.

Like that saying: never meet your idols.

It's just better to appreciate achievements on their own.

Plus, frequently achievements are just the result of long, incremental work done by many hundreds of people in the background.