[11235813213455]

That would help with climate change, but the biggest part is reducing our consumption in all senses. For example, my electricity bill is 10€/month, I have no fridge, use no heating, no hot water, so I'd totally be able to live with just a small solar panel, as I almost never use a device that requires a high power (I eat mostly raw fruits/vegs, more rarely eggs, fish or rice)

[hn_throwaway_99]

I mean, kudos to you, but the vast, vast majority of people (myself included) are not willing to give up refrigerators, or heat, or hot water, so your approach really isn't relevant give the scale needed to solve the problem.

[seba_dos1]

I haven't done so myself either, but as the time passes I increasingly become convinced that the only available options for vast majority of population will be to do it now on your own terms or be forced to do it with everyone else later.

[vinyl7]

I like how as a people, we exploded with technology and capabilities, and now supposedly need to return to living like a cave man. I just hope that people who decide to live that way can cope with the fact that all the rich people and politicians will still live in affluence no matter what

[11235813213455]

"like a cave man" → I advocate for cherry-picking what's really useful in our modern societies: internet, a laptop, runnable water, electricity, and saving energy and resources for all the rest because we're reaching our limits on this planet. But that's hard to pass this message without making people feel "guilty" (which again is not my point at all)

[seba_dos1]

If you "explode with technology and capabilities" while externalizing a lot of their costs to future generations, what other outcome can you honestly expect? The future starts now.

[11235813213455]

sure, I just gave an almost extreme example for our capitalist societies, but just reducing their consumption by 20%-50% is easily achievable for most people, and that makes a huge difference

[corobo]

That sounds horrible haha, each to their own. I used to live like that when I had no money, maybe I’m a bit biased

I think I’ll wait till corporates are mandated to reduce waste at scale before I go that far. Ever seen how much waste a single Dominos store makes per day? Can’t recycle greased cardboard

[11235813213455]

Same here as a student, but I kept that lifestyle since then because I like that simplicity, the amount of money I earn doesn't change anything to that

[dahart]

Why doesn’t using solar for heat & refrigeration do as much as foregoing heat & refrigeration? Isn’t the climate problem due to using non-renewables, and the emissions that come from physical construction, and not from energy use per se?

What do you envision as realistic for society, and how could we actually get there? Is it realistic for families with children to go without heat or refrigeration? How about senior citizens? As much as I agree that consumption should be reduced in a general sense, I’m a bit skeptical of “personal responsibility” solutions, when a huge fraction of current emissions, perhaps the majority, come from corporations. Another massive fraction comes from personal vehicles. Heating & refrigeration is pretty far down the list of big problems, if we’re going to be realistic about what the “biggest part” is, right?

[ta988]

When you see the amount of waste generated by hospitals, I would think twice before increasing the risk of food poisoning....

[crucialfelix]

I feel like I know you :)