[matthewmacleod]

Yeah, I've always been pretty skeptical of the "Intel just sat doing nothing" narrative. The impression I got back in the day is that they went quite hard on their 10nm process with a reasonably ambitious set of changes, then failed to scale it to production. That had substantial knock-on effects including delays to the associated microarchitectures as well as subsequent nodes and backports.

Regardless of the reasons I hope they recover; multiple providers of cutting-edge fabrication technology will be essential.

[peakaboo]

Intel has absolutely been lazy and literally just gave 5% performance increase per year for quite some time. When AMD was making shitty processors, Intel was just trying to squeeze as much money as possible from marginal upgrades.

You can run Windows on a Intel cpu that is 10 years old and notice hardly any difference in performance.

And on the other hand, they changed everything. Their cpus are actually innovative and really fast, and brought the entire multi core thing into consumer hands in a real way.