[morgante]

Unfortunately my experience is that most PMs are not sufficiently technical. They will often add more work by injecting useless processes and try to "demonstrate value" by coming up with new ideas without actually understanding the problem domain.

The best approach I have found is simply to add more automated gates/bots. If people have not done what the bot asks, there's no need to waste time/energy on them.

[outsomnia]

> Unfortunately my experience is that most PMs are not sufficiently technical.

Yeah. And I eventually came to realize: lazy.

[kubanczyk]

> > Unfortunately my experience is that most PMs are not sufficiently technical.

> Yeah. And I eventually came to realize: lazy.

Lazy is just one side of the coin. If someone's career is focused on unsexy hard work instead of halfheartedly "demonstrating value", the core problem is not that they cannot slack off. The core problem is that others can hold them hostage.