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by colechristensen 1553 days ago
The fed was able to maintain a functioning economy without major disruption in essentials (i.e. there weren't major shocks in being able to buy food or maintain housing) despite shutting down or significantly modifying large sections of the economy for a significant time.

They aren't "trapped" this is the natural and expected consequence of creating a lot more money to sidestep a temporary condition. Considering the US is the strongest-ish economy in the world and the rest of the world had to do the same thing, there shouldn't be terrible consequences as long as nobody does anything really stupid.

Bitcoin, gold, and anti-fed fanboys have a tendency to have a poor understanding at best of global economics with very basic misunderstandings like thinking that bumping the rate bumps the rates of all previous bonds.

Some people who do advocate for those things do know what they are talking about and can argue valid points which are up for discussion, but you don't actually see those very often.

Monetary policy in the US has made major mistakes, but it has been doing a pretty good job, and importantly has avoided the worst kinds of disaster for a long time. What it did during covid was essentially the only option, what a gold standard economy would have been able to do would have led to much worse outcomes.

People will complain about anything. The HN crowd generally overestimates its expertise in matters not related to startup tech (i.e. physics, engineering, economics posts often have pretty awful comments)

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> Bitcoin, gold, and anti-fed fanboys have a tendency to have a poor understanding at best of global economics with very basic misunderstandings like thinking that bumping the rate bumps the rates of all previous bonds.

Discussion on this post is worse than the usual level of discussion here, and the usual level around these topics isn't great at best. Hard to discuss monetary policy with someone who doesn't know what monetary policy actually is.

Not trying to be a rude but why even make this comment? Just saying something is bad and inferring people are amateurs without offering any insight yourself is just as useless as the opinions you think are uninformed
Seems like the point of the comment is a reality check against hubris. This can have value to help people who don't know what they don't know begin to understand what the things they don't know are. Possibly the most valuable kind of learning at all.
Grocery stores were emptied but i'll agree that people weren't starving. Maintain housing? I am knee deep trying to buy my first house and completely priced out of my home state. We've had 5 offers on houses now go ~100k over asking. It is brutal out there on housing. Moving to another state means leaving my extended family and taking a pay cut due to company pay scale policies for out of CA workers.

25bps wont help 7.9% inflation. We cant substantially raise rates like the 80s because there is too much debt. The current war will cause trade & commodity issues that wont reveal themselves till late this year. The current admin just signed another 1.5 trillion. And they will keep creating money to finance war or bail out bad situations they themselves created. Middle class and lower are screwed