[a3oB]

I, too, live in a very conservative area.

> Zelensky is a nazi

Considering Trump voters have a history of being called Nazi for the affiliation, I don't see it as a stretch to call Zelensky one for the Ukrainian "Azov Battalion." Think of it as the sword cutting both ways.

> the Ukraine war is all CGI

This one I see constantly... folks expect 4K quality LiveLeak material to be streaming out of Ukraine. Truth be told I'm surprised at the relative dearth of material, but there's still enough floating around social media to make this one rather laughable.

> anything related to Hillary or Bill Clinton

Oddly, I haven't heard anything on this one. Though I have seen a meme going around referring to Biden, Romney, Pelosi, and Kerry having "children involved in the UA energy business." This, at least partially false, but with a rooting in the truth... Hunter Biden as well as advisors / associates of the others have all done business in the UA energy sector. I'm still not quite sure how and why Biden's handling of the former UA prosecutor that had an investigation going against Burisma which employed Hunter isn't a larger political scandal.

All in all there does seem an age gap (IME) with your typical Boomer / Fox types spreading the garbage content, folks towards the Millenial side don't.

[doomslice]

Whether intentional or not, the way you presented these (including the one about CGI) is how these sorts of conspiracies get wings and spread.

"Oh of course this is not true... except for maybe this little sliver here..."

That's the thing that gets latched onto and eventually the conspiracy nuts argue the whole thing must be true.

[a3oB]

> That's the thing that gets latched onto and eventually the conspiracy nuts argue the whole thing must be true.

Exactly how things operate, "Project Northwoods was true, therefore the government is bad, therefore very real 'Government Program X' is bad" is the general algorithm.

With that said, I'm hacker. I seek the truth and will discuss it regardless of whether some wingnut seizes on it to make a false assumption.

I also have no problem attempting to correct the Boomer Doomers I run into at work and in life... they're just usually happy to go "Oh well, fair enough..." and then go back to watching whatever it is they're on about.

Cotdamn Gell-Mann Amnesia

[soco]

"isn't a larger political scandal" - somehow I have the feeling, nowadays only wacky assertions are able to trigger big discussions (and big feelings). Lots of things having a grain of sense are left aside, maybe for being not ridiculous enough...

[einpoklum]

> I'm still not quite sure how and why Biden's handling of the former UA prosecutor that had an investigation going against Burisma which employed Hunter isn't a larger political scandal.

I would speculate that some kinds of corruption are beyond the scandalous and into the range of bipartisan consensus. In the sense that if certain cans of worms were opened, and government bureaucrats educated to treat them as illegal, investigate and prosecute people for them, then it would affect too many key people in both parties and/or covert/intelligence operations abroad.

Having family members serve on boards of directors of things for improving access to politicians seems to be one of those. So is the issue of divesting from one's commercial holdings when assuming an office which creates conflicts of interests. Trump got a total pass by just saying "Oh, I let my sons manage it" - as if that removes the problem at all. But too many house representatives and senators have stocks or other such stakes which they would rather just keep.