[historia_novae]

It's a strawman and I'm tiring of reading it everywhere. Ukrainians are Europeans, it's normal they're flying to neighbouring countries, that is European ones. Syrians are Middle-Easterners, it would be logical for them to flee to wealthy neighboring countries (most does: Lebanon is hosting millions of them) which are geographically, linguistically, culturally and religiously closer to them like Saudi Arabia or Israel. Europe doesn't owe anything to non-Europeans, especially when there are millions.

[vintermann]

This is stretching it. Try buying kvass in Norway! Eastern Europe is in many ways a different planet. It's gradually changing thanks to Schengen workers, but middle easterners have had a bigger presence for longer - and they're actually better integrated in many ways (since they're not just here temporarily to make money, as many Schengen workers are).

Ironically, the only place I've found Ukrainian kvass is in small supermarkets run by middle easterners.

[toxik]

Your argument, stripped down: $UAFoodItem is hard to find, thus Middle Eastern immigrants are better integrated. QED.

[vintermann]

No, it's just an illustration, of a dead-common thing in EE being obscure and hard to find here. Most people wouldn't even know what it is.

I explained why middle easterners are often better integrated: they've often been here for longer, and they're usually here to stay. EE right wingers overestimate how much they have in common with us, and have the usual hang-ups about Islam.

[older]

> Try buying kvass in Norway!

Easy. I've bought it in Kiwi in Hemsedal (Ulsåk) several times, for example. All Eco Market shops in Oslo as well (run by Ukrainians/Poles btw).

[vintermann]

You definitively can't get kvass on your average Kiwi. I can't even get it my local Spar or Mega. But there are always odd exceptions (my local Mega pushes mochi heavily for some weird reason).

Immigrant shops are your best bet, it's true.

[older]

My local Spar has "east european foods" shelf. There's no kvas, but a lot of other good stuff though.

[ginko]

>Try buying kvass in Norway!

The immigrant store 150m from where I am right now stocks several brands of kvass.