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by tzs 1556 days ago
> Why would people want the sun to go down in the afternoon?

They don't. They want it to come up in the morning. In many places there isn't enough sunlight in the middle of winter to have it up both in the morning and the afternoon, so they need to pick one.

From a safety point of view, probably sunlight in the morning in more useful because sunlight drives temperature. That means mornings tend to be colder than afternoons, and so are more likely to have hazards such as ice on the roads.

When you go with dark mornings, you are combining the worst road conditions with the worst visibility. When you choose light mornings over light afternoons, then morning is combining the best visibility with the worst road conditions and afternoon is combining the best road conditions with the worst visibility.

Another factor is that commutes tend to fall into a narrower time range in the mornings. The commutes back home after work tend to be more spread out. This tends to make the morning commute more dangerous, which further argues against placing the morning commute in darkness.

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You also have the issue with kids who take the bus to school. With dark mornings, kids sit by the road and wait for the bus. So they walk in the dark to the bus stop, then wait there for some indeterminate amount of time in the dark.

Getting darker earlier at night, there are two advantages for schoolkids. One is that school tends to get out before the sun goes down even on the shortest days for most areas. So, many kids who'd have to wait in the dark in the morning don't have to deal with the dark at all in the afternoon. The other is that even when it's getting dark by the time the kid gets home, they don't have to wait next to the road for an indeterminate amount of time until the bus gets there.

> When you go with dark mornings, you are combining the worst road conditions with the worst visibility.

You're still passing the buck to commutes during dark evenings. Driving at night is always more dangerous:

https://www.nsc.org/road-safety/safety-topics/night-driving

I'd argue that evening darkness is somewhat safer than morning darkness when I'm considering winter weather. The temperature of the roads are higher after ten hours of daylight than they are after ten hours of darkness. The coldest and iciest conditions are often found right before dawn.
Another important thing is, that people might be tired in the morning as they are not fully awake yet. This gets worse, the earlier they have to rise vs. the sun raise.
Also, on average, people are in less of a hurry after work.
My point is that given equal lighting morning is probably going to be worse for driving because of road conditions.

If we then have to add darkness to one of those, adding it to evening will probably be less damaging because evening has a larger safety margin due to better road conditions.

Adding darkness to morning is taking what is already the hardest case and making it even worse.

But currently more accidents happen at night than they do in the early morning, even when morning darkness factored in.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/crashes-b...

> You're still passing the buck

Well, yeah. That's the key to their whole argument: the buck HAS to be passed somewhere.