[seanalltogether]

Do you have kids? Do you have to wake those kids up for school in the dark and wrestle with your own ability to wake up in the dark? Have you been to school board meetings and listened to other parents who are extremely opinionated about every aspect of their children's schedules.

The simple answer is that while lots of people "want" the sun in the evening, there is a sizable group of people that "need" the sun in the morning.

[Apocryphon]

They could also shift when school schedules start to later in the morning.

[seanalltogether]

But that shifts work schedules to later in the morning, which pushes lunch and dinner schedules, and bedtime schedules, and then you're right back where you started.

[gifnamething]

Then we lose the conceit that we're doing it for the kids' benefit.

[Apocryphon]

It wouldn't shift meal or bedtime schedules.

[m463]

I think that is the answer.

Keep kids away from traffic during darkness and let them have a little more darkness in the evening when they're inside and safe.

[thehappypm]

If your desire is to make sure that kids have light on both ends of the school commute, then adjust your time zone such that winter is optimal. Then just keep that time zone year round. Why bother moving the clocks?

[ilovesunlight]

Daylight savings effectively shifts school 1 hour earlier relative to sunrise, which is the exact opposite of what is good for kids (who need more sleep than adults).

[dham]

School just starts way too damn early. I remember school at like 8:30 in elementary school. My son starts at 7:20. He has to get up at like 6:00 because it takes so long to get him up.

[colinmhayes]

I "need" the sun to not rise before 5 for a third of the year.