[Broken_Hippo]

"And it makes no sense for kids to stand around in the dark at freezing cold bus stops every morning."

I mean, coats exist. We could make sure everyone has winter wear appropriate for the weather, and then it just won't be an issue. Kids here are out in it and are from a young age here (Norway).

[D13Fd]

Easy to say from a low-crime, high-safety country like Norway.

[0xbadcafebee]

Are we still pushing the myth of an epidemic of kids in the states getting abducted by random strangers?

[D13Fd]

It's easy to focus on abductions and forget all of the other relevant crime, which makes up the majority of it.

Yes abductions are low, but in many many areas crime as a whole is high, and children are often involved or impacted, and likely more so when they are stuck standing around in the dark.

[Apocryphon]

After school crime involving children is much more prevalent. Imagine how darkness might currently aid that:

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/offenders/qa03301.asp

https://www.policechiefmagazine.org/after-school-the-prime-t...

[Broken_Hippo]

I'm from the US - the midwest. It wasn't a big deal catching the bus when it was cold/dark there, either. We had lights at the bus stops, and half the time it was in front of the house. No big deal. We had coats, too. There are multiple programs to make sure kids have coats in the US, though they don't go far enough.

Most places in the US are pretty safe, by the way, though folks will swear they aren't.

[rattray]

Also a country where a high percentage of families can afford clothing of adequate quality.

[throwaway0a5e]

Winter coats aren't so expensive that the people of Detroit are seriously lacking for them.

Sure they can't all stand at the bus stop wearing some status symbol of a jacket but they do just fine.

[kube-system]

When I was in school, there were absolutely kids who lacked basic necessities, including quality clothing. Clothing was also more expensive back then... but universal schooling means that we're also catering to the poorest of the poor.

[johannes1234321]

These damn socialists ...