[dragonsh]

> The power of democracy isn't the debates and election campaigns. That's mostly theater. The power of democracy is the peaceful way to change the government after it fucks up.

This is also an illusion democracy is also tyranny of majority in which minority or minority views trampled. Shining example is USA, India. US waged war killed scores of civilians in so many countries and still a beacon of democracy, India an incompetent govt which bring economic ruin in the country continue to get majority because it appeals to majority religious group.

In US to fight presidential elections need billions of dollars. However the rules be made, most politicians need to seek money from rich which needs to be paid back directly or indirectly. Nothing comes free in this world.

So democracy to survive needs to transform itself first.

[mlindner]

Better tyranny of the majority than tyranny of the one.

[dragonsh]

> Better tyranny of the majority than tyranny of the one.

There is nothing like tyranny of one. Its always Tyranny of interest groups, which is true in any system including democratic system where rich and powerful controls most.

Today most of the US elections are controlled by billionaires and who is going to win depends on their blessings. Same is true for India.

US, India represent the majority of the human population under democratic system and how it works.

Look at any HDI or UN statistics that matter and see the conditions on largest human population on one side represented by democratic India and on another side by a closed system in China (people call it authoritarian, although its a mixture of many systems). Examine closely and you will notice both the systems work in some areas and fail in others, no one can claim superiority over other system. But a narrative of good vs evil, superior vs inferior is a root cause of conflicts. If people began to see things from humanity’s perspective with respect of each other world would be a different place.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Solution to armed conflict is not more armed conflict by supporting one group against another with weapons of destruction.

[ajuc]

> There is nothing like tyranny of one. Its always Tyranny of interest groups

The "interest groups" that rule Russia is less than 100 people. It's not the same as interest groups in democracies.

> Look at any HDI or UN statistics that matter and see the conditions on largest human population on one side represented by democratic India and on another side by a closed system in China.

India would have to kill millions of its own citizens to get equally bad as China. But you probably don't consider how it was created, just the end effect, right? What's a few millions dead here and there if they can build cheap factories :)

> But a narrative of good vs evil, superior vs inferior is a root cause of conflicts.

Killing innocent people is in fact evil. Systems where you can do that with no consequences are in fact inferior.

And the root of all conflict is politicians starting wars because they think they can get away with it. The narratives are always there, with any implication you want, you just have to choose one and decide to go with it.

The big advantage of democracy is that you don't (in general) get away with it. You can for a while, but not forever.

[chii]

> no one can claim superiority over other system.

no, but looking at immigration levels between the systems, it's clear what people prefer.

[yucky]

I would disagree. Tyranny of the majority means even your friends and neighbors and family could be against you.