[pnutjam]

It's still just a way to keep it off the books. In the states, you have to pay out leave people earned and did not take when they resign.

That can be very helpful when your pay dates don't line up right due to how different companies handle pay.

[borski]

It’s not “still just a way” to keep it off the books - that’s just a convenient side effect for the company. The overall effect was that more people took more vacation at our company, which was overall a good thing.

[pnutjam]

If that were the case you should give people a generous amount of leave and make it expire if unused, 30 days on the first of the year?

[borski]

And what if someone needs a 31st day?

That’s the challenge this aims to solve. There’s nothing wrong with either approach, and “shaming people into not taking vacation” works either way.

[pnutjam]

Give them the 31st, but you need to set a floor and commit budget.