[fellow_human]

> A lot of people don't (and in my opinion, shouldn't) conflate such a primal activity as "sacred". Is it really a good idea to put sex up on a pedestal?

I think people should have a realistic view of what sex is. It certainly is not a mechanical & purely physical act (perhaps thats what you mean by "primal"). Sex represented in porn tends be unrealistic and treats women as objects purely for male gratification, to use as some sort of sexual punching bag and evacuate feelings. Essentially it teaches viewers to dehumanise women and dissassociate from real life.

[tomc1985]

Stats are showing that women are consuming lots of porn now too.

And I always find the 'dehumanizing' argument amusing, it's like saying that Nine Inch Nails represents all industrial music, or that all 90s rock is represented by Nickelback. If you go out seeking examples of dehumanization the systems are such that that is all you will find. If you seek out homemade videos by real couples happily posting them to Pornhub or Onlyfans, that is also what you will mostly find. If you seek out wild fetish stuff, then that is also what you will mostly find.

This is not the 90s, porn is quite diverse. For every headline out there manufactured to bring outrage to moralists, there are a hundred other stories which are much more benign.

Personally I'd do away with 'mainstream' porn, my inner voyeur likes the homemade stuff too much.

[fellow_human]

> Stats are showing that women are consuming lots of porn now too.

And that somehow makes porn nice and healthy does it?

> Personally I'd do away with 'mainstream' porn, my inner voyeur likes the homemade stuff too much.

I'm not sure I understand your argument, nor confident you understand mine. Just because a couple make homemade videos together and post them up, it doesn't mean the viewer who is getting sexual gratification has any sort of real connection to the performers. It's complete fantasy, dependant on the human body as solely as means of sexual gratification rather than any wholistic context. Now take that mindset to to the real world as see how maladapted it leaves you. Here in the UK there's an epidemic of highscool aged girls being pressured into sending nude images by boys. Of course porn can't be to blame for all of this, but I'm sure it plays a big part.

I'd also like to point out nothing I'm talking about is related to morality (since you mentioned it). Whatever people want to spend their time doing is up to them. I'm simply making the argument that porn can be harmful and lots of mainstream porn is really focused around turning women into sex objects and outlets for dealing with displaced emotions. I've no doubt that there's something deeper that drives your voyeurism too, maybe inquiring about that might make you pursue something more fulfilling than images on the internet.

Let's stop pretending there are no consequences to porn.