[5etho]

well, offtop by Russophilis is getting out of hand. Russia was aggresor, in 1994 in Chechnya IIRC 1999 Chechnya, Georgia 2008, Ukraine 2014, Ukraine 2022. Russian FSB do terrorists attack on their own citizen [1]. Case is simple, goverment is a war crime and was for 28 years. There is a whole generation of young people brainwashed by their parents with roots back to 1800s tsarist propaganda. Russians need to step up and deal with their horrible country past. I, as a polish, kinda has a natural degree in sovietology and Moscow war crimes throughout the ages.

I'm sorry that you're dealing with some incovenciencse. But there are people dying right now.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

[ajsnigrutin]

Now do usa!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...

But when america does it, it's a "war for peace!" - https://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1995/11...

Look, we all agree war is bad... I live in the balkans, and I had american planes flying above my roof, bombing a country 300km away not that long ago... not to forget all of our "local" wars before that. But saying that americans are any better than russians or vice-versa is a huge lie. Russians atleast had a "weak" period in the 90s, where they didn't do this shit, until they got their economy fixed a bit, americans didn't stop even then.

[scrollaway]

The US is not currently invading Ukraine. "Now do USA!" is whataboutism. It's what Putin is using as his justification to invade Ukraine:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/putin-ukrain...

Please. Stop. Amplifying. Putin's. Message.

[ajsnigrutin]

But it's occupying syria. It's bombing somalia. And Yemen. They just pulled out of afghanistan after many years there, and they even fucked that up.

Why cry about ukraine and not about syria?

Why are you so keen on protecting the americans, when they're just as bad as putin? If america invaded ukraine, this would be just another "war for peace", like every other american war was.

[scrollaway]

Don't make accusations you can't back up. I never defended america's atrocities, repeatedly called them out, volunteered and donated time and money for Syria's refugee crisis as much as I could.

I'm more personally involved in the Ukraine war because this is my government, and my extended family is targeted. But I never fucking ignored Syria, and I'm not ignoring it now. I'm saying that all you're doing here is helping Russia, which helps neither Ukraine nor Syria. So stop it.

[ajsnigrutin]

And I live in what was once Yugoslavia, and a part of our former country was bombed by nato.

Let's say you have a country, and there is a minority in that country... and people hate eachother a bit, due to historical reasons, there are tensions, a war, the minority unilaterally declares independence, some superpowers support them at this (others don't), main country disagrees and attacks the separatists, and after all that a superpower comes in and starts destroying the main country to get what they want.

If you're not sure if I'm talking about ukraine or kosovo, you're right, the scenario is the same, but since the americans were doing it back then, the destroying of the country was "good" and now it's "bad".

If switzerland pointed fingers at putin.. sure, point, curse, whatever. Nato members (including my current country now) should just stay quiet, because they did the same, many times before.

[scrollaway]

Hi, I live in Belgium, a country that like many others has a dark past of colonialism (who is currently trying to make amends for it).

We're pointing fingers. Switzerland is pointing fingers. I'm OK with the USA's support in the fingerpointing, so please let us have their fucking support. Every Ukrainian I know is OK with the USA's support, and it's been by far some of the most effective in this war, so please let them have their fucking support.

You don't get to pick and choose your own allies, LET ALONE SOMEONE ELSE'S.

[nec4b]

I think everybody was sure you were talking about Kosovo and not Ukraine.