[ShivShankaran]

Ukraine is being egged on by US to fight a war it cannot win. They have a clear way out and it's gut wrenching that they want to continue fighting.

As for your anecdote if someone was stabbing me and wanted my wallet/bank/whatever, I will throw it in.

Stand on the graves of a million dead people and ask them if honor matters. Their silence will be your answer.

[djohnston]

Your rhetoric is meaningless. Plenty of people have died for honor that would answer in the affirmative if not dead. That you have a blindspot to that sort of self sacrifice means nothing on behalf of the people fighting for Ukraine.

[ShivShankaran]

Most of them are being forced to fight since it's illegal for men to leave the country. Listen this is exactly the dixie chicks moment.

They got death threats, pulled off radio, cds burnt. Its impossible for me to explain anything rational over the din of rabid nationalistic flag waving and posturing to support this proxy war.

Zelensky 100% has the option to end the war. Just accept the terms and live another day to fight the bully

[tguvot]

>Most of them are being forced to fight since it's illegal for men to leave the country. Listen this is exactly the dixie chicks moment.

illegal to leave country - yes. Forced to fight - no. You need to have a really good connections inside military in order to join military in combat role those days.

[mcphage]

> Just accept the terms and live another day to fight the bully

Of course, when that “another day” comes you’ll again argue that they should lie down in the dirt and soil themselves.

[primax]

You should study some history of the second World War and learn how appeasement went with Hitler.