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by yucky 1558 days ago
It doesn't take much imagination to think what the US would do if China began to make a "special pact" with Mexico. The US would very aggressively put that to an end, one way or another. This is essentially the same. Of course if we continue to coax the expansion of NATO (ie the international arm of the US military) onto the Russian border it will cause problems. Why would we ever pretend otherwise?
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jacquesm 1557 days ago
> It doesn't take much imagination to think what the US would do if China began to make a "special pact" with Mexico.

Shall we stick to the world as it is? Also, that's a pretty bad analogy, and no, it is not 'essentially the same'.

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yucky 1557 days ago
Perhaps some historical context would help? Going back 25 years there has been universal acknowledgement that the further expansion of NATO to Russian borders was guaranteed to trigger conflict and potentially WWIII - https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/o...
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jacquesm 1557 days ago
No, we should blame mothers milk. Every dictator that was ever born drank it, therefore mothers milk is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine.

Again, can you please stop with the dumb propaganda pieces trying to West-Wash the Russian invasion into Ukraine? It is beyond boring. If it is your goal to drive people away from HN by rehashing the same inane arguments over and over again that is of course your freedom but since you, as a new entrant are not gaining anything and we lose something it would seem that this is a non-zero sum game where in the end we're looking at a net loss.

The only party responsible for the invasion of Ukraine is one V. Putin and by extension the Russian state. Attempts to drag the past in by the ears or otherwise are counterproductive. If anything NATO should have accepted Ukraine because we already know the result of not accepting them. See also several treaties that Russia just decided to wipe its arse with.

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yucky 1557 days ago
If you don't think the expansion of NATO, the US-backed Ukrainian coup/revolution/othercutename[1] or the US essentially handpicking the post-coup leadership in Ukraine[2] have anything at all to do with why Russia has decided to invade Ukraine, what do you think is the reason?

[1] https://apnews.com/article/970e8e54b3df46eab593e9e11beb056d

[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape/leaked-a...

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SideburnsOfDoom 1557 days ago
> US-backed Ukrainian coup

You have been called out on your "CIA Coup" propaganda before, regarding this event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

It's boring.

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