[jacquesm]

I'm sure that if they are the last man standing and all of Ukraine is turned into rubble soaked through with blood that they'll declare victory. But it won't amount to much.

Real people with power build they don't destroy. The likes of Putin only know how to kill and how to destroy.

[Animats]

I'm sure that if they are the last man standing and all of Ukraine is turned into rubble soaked through with blood that they'll declare victory.

For Russia, that may be an acceptable outcome. The last century and a half of Russian history has a large number of mass death events.

[stickfigure]

The phrase "for Russia" seems inappropriate. You mean for Putin. And... maybe? I'm not convinced. Even Stalin had to regularly kill off the people around him to maintain power.

[khazhoux]

> Real people with power build they don't destroy.

Citation needed.

This sounds nice but it's just a value statement.