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by thatsmyfribble 1558 days ago
I don't think it was built with the intention of subjugation, but I think it has been a consequence of its implementation and politics. I do think there is a version of a Jewish state that doesn't behave like this, but its current political consensus is not that state.
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A4ET8a8uTh0 1558 days ago
"I don't think it was built with the intention of subjugation,"

But was it built with the intention of segregation?

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thatsmyfribble 1558 days ago
Yes. The premise of a state which is 'for' a specific group inherently employs segregation. I say subjugation because I think there is a version of that system that maintains a Jewish ruling majority without subjugating the minority.

Again, you can agree or disagree with a state that is built on segregation, but I ask that you include in your judgement the history and context of Israel's existence.

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sterlind 1558 days ago
out of genuine curiosity, how would that system work? how can you prevent subjugating the Arab minority?
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thatsmyfribble 1558 days ago
It's definitely a very difficult issue, and the answer is definitely better left to someone with more political experience than myself (having zero), and with more knowledge of the Israeli political structure, but to start with-

1. Israel should move its capital to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem should become a U.N. Mandate. No single group should have exclusive claim over what many groups consider their holiest place. 2. There remains a permanent group like the U.N. security council in the Knesset that represents the Jewish people and their interests in the state of Israel, so regardless of the makeup of the coalition government, the interest of a Jewish state/state of the Jews remain effective - this is the least undemocratic way there could be representation while maintaining representation 3. All occupied territories are either returned or annexed--if annexed, full citizenship and rights are given to those who live there

Those are just my thoughts. I'm sure greater minds would come up with greater opinions. I just firmly believe there is a way to co-exist.

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weatherlite 1557 days ago
If the conflict ended and the area accepted Israel in its current form, it wouldn't be that much different than being a minority in any other Western country.
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