[civilian]

Very little meat in this post. Also-- the freedom to sexually mutilate young women is a horrible example, because anyone doing that would be violating her right to life & liberty.

libertarians want government to stop force & fraud, and that's it.

[CMartucci]

But this whole "liberty" concept confuses me. Can't we just say it's a bad example because we'd be violating her right to life? Because when we bring liberty into the picture, we are in fact saying that her liberty is more important than the persecutor's liberty. So it's not really liberty that has the final say, but life. And then, even if we say that, its not always the case that violating the right to life is ALWAYS bad (think trolley example). So I think "consequentialism" suffices.