[biztos]

> After researching the impact the livestock industry has on our planet, I knew I wanted to get involved to stop it.

I applaud the desire to help humanity eat healthier and saner amounts of meat, but...

I remain unconvinced that creating relatively resource-intensive fake meats is better than using highly efficient non-animal meat[0]. Most people won't eat either one unless they have no choice, but if it comes to that one thing is much better for the planet than the other. And if it doesn't come to that, we're gonna burn the planet to ashes for our McRibs.

Isn't the real solution to eat less meat, as opposed to eating more fake meat?

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetia_illucens#As_human_foo...

[UglyToad]

The problem, as a vegetarian of something like 4 years, is that meat is really bloody tasty. Simply put, it's extremely nice to eat.

So rather than a future where we all eat flies or tofu or lentils or seitan or something if we can make a dent in the impact of animal agriculture while catering for the increase in meat eating in Asia then it's a good thing.

[rattray]

I think many people would rather burn the planet down than eat fly larvae.

[biztos]

You wouldn’t advertise it as fly larvae.

People in the West already enthusiastically eat many things that would make them seriously unhappy if they had to think about the origins.

[cleancoder0]

That is a valid claim. The artificial bioreactors in question are rarely as efficient as the body of an animal. So these "reduction" claims come from thinking about how much animal meat production is reduced by meeting the demand with fake meat, not taking the energy demands of fake meat production into account at all.

[coldpie]

> Isn't the real solution to eat less meat, as opposed to eating more fake meat?

Sure. What's your plan to get there from here?

[biztos]

> What's your plan to get there from here?

Price in the externalities.