[ckastner]

I never saw the goal as eating healthy all the time. Just more of it can already improve things dramatically.

For example, I absolutely love good pizza (with the emphasis on good), and just get it whenever I crave it because I know that overall, I'm doing more than fine. I only ranted about Big Macs earlier because that particular product is crap; some restaurants here produce just absolutely fantastic cheese burgers and I enjoy them every now and then.

But I also enjoy a good Pho, which is basically just hot water with some rice noodles, and an immense amount of flavor.

I think the trick is just finding the balance of these things, not some form of overall abstinence.

[smugma]

A friend’s mom makes us pho about once a year. Definitely not just hot water. It takes hours of prep to make the broth. Easy for a restaurant to make in a bat, and relatively low calorie and fat, but it’s denigrating to call it hot water (Annie Chun makes instant pho, which is basically hot water and some spices)

[hurflmurfl]

I believe the poster didn't mean this as "denigrating", and were rather referring to the caloric contents, where "hot water" implies minimal amount of calories.

Of course, making a proper broth takes time and does put some nutritional value into said "hot water" (as do onions fried on oil/butter, sauces you add and potentially sugar), but that doesn't really change the fact that the will be minimal amount of calories in that.

[ckastner]

> I believe the poster didn't mean this as "denigrating", and were rather referring to the caloric contents, where "hot water" implies minimal amount of calories.

Yes, this is what I meant.