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by NicoJuicy 1560 days ago
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

About the propaganda, the articles you linked give another meaning to me than what you are suggesting and suggesting "modern diplomacy" is "somewhat" conspiracy like is a severe underestimation ( i browsed through some articles)

The latest one you linked was literally when Russia also moved Russians within Ukraine to cause an uprising. That's what it's called a "gray zone war" in 2014...

Putin even acknowledged he had boots on the ground at that time - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Russo-Ukra...

No one said that Ukraine was already a perfect democracy either. Their independency is very recent ( since 1991 ) and even then they were heavily influenced by Russian leaders in their governement ( literally). You can't fix something like that in 10 years.

If you're argument is that it's not perfect there, I agree. But a lot of progress has been made in recent decades, which is what counts.

But that is by no means a reason to revert the progress that has been accomplished by them in recent decades.

I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. The majority of Ukraine needs help against an autocratic regime and aggressor, that invests 6% of their GDP in military.

A leader like Zelensky currently could make great strides in a democracy in a short amount of time, if the invasion wouldn't have happened.

Nobody is suggesting he was/is perfect, but the current actions he's doing are formidable in many ways. He's clearly a man of many skills under very difficult circumstances. What you call "media heroes" isn't created by the media in the case. It's by Zelensky's "Fingerspitzengefühl", which he earned every bit of it on his own.

In the same logic, I'm not suggesting any system is perfect. My preference is the least bad one.