[sofixa]

> there will be no Ukraine by the time any of current measures start hurting anyone other than pedestrians. the measures that would work are not being considered seriously by anyone that matters

The measures that would work such as direct sanctions and seizing the assets of a bunch of oligarchs, Putin and his ministers? Which were step 1? Or freezing the Russian central bank's foreign currency reserves?

Furthermore, 2 weeks in, Ukraine is holding out, Russia is bleeding men and equipment, and their advance is pretty much stalled on almost all fronts. They're mobilising museum pieces from the Far East and random civilians vehicles to send to Ukraine, so it doesn't seem like the equipment situation is great. I doubt a mass mobilisation will be gladly accepted by the Russian population, so to what extent they can deal with those loses is yet to see.

Even if Russia manages to conquer all of Ukraine, they couldn't occupy it for lack of troops.

[ivan90210]

>The measures that would work such as ...

measures that would get Russia to withdraw

>Even if Russia manages to conquer all of Ukraine, they couldn't occupy it for lack of troops.

the only if in this war is whether Ukraine surrenders before or after its cities get Second Chechen War treatment

[NicoJuicy]

You haven't given any example.

The best measure for forcing Russia to withdraw is lack of funds.

At least give a decent alternative that would work... I tried to think of "any" other and there is no viable one.

Except if China would remove the lifeline, which they won't. Since they can buy Russian energy/food companies for pennies on the dollar.

https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/international/... ( + other sources are easily found)

Looks like modern colonization to me.