[morpheos137]

You have to be joking. Ukraine has existed as a "country" only for a few decades.

The very name means borderland. Pull up a map from 1930 show me the country Ukraine? How about 1830? How about 1730 (then a big part was still under the Turks). How about 1630?

America has existed as a country longer than Odessa has been a city.

[type0]

> Ukraine has existed as a "country" only for a few decades.

So what, Canada only existed as a "country" for a few decades, maybe US military should bomb their cities and take it then.

[Synaesthesia]

The USA certainly tried to, but were rebuffed by the superpower of the time, Britain.

Anyway, back on topic, I don't think the corruption in Ukraine can be denied. Its every hit as bad as in Russia, and it could also be a wealthy country.

It's slightly more democratic than Russia, but only slightly.

[nickpp]

How many distinct leaders in the last 20 years did Ukraine have and how many Russia?

It’s not just "slightly" more democratic.

[Synaesthesia]

How many journalists have been killed? It's actually comparable, as is the level if oligarch dominance of the media and many aspects of life.