[dmytrish]

"The real reason is Russia united with Europe would enable a true Eurasian competitor to the USA to arise." -- this is plainly ridiculous.

Russia was not able to join the EU at the time due to its oligarchy and systemic corruption, very weak democratic institutions, lack of understanding and enforcement of some basic human rights. It was clearly incompatible with the EU values and has actually severely degraded in that regard since then.

Geopolitics is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

[morpheos137]

"Russia was not able to join the EU at the time due to its oligarchy and systemic corruption, very weak democratic institutions, lack of understanding and enforcement of some basic human rights. It was clearly incompatible with the EU values and has actually severely degraded in that regard since then."

All these apply to an even greater extent in Ukraine.

Propaganda is the succor of dull minds.

[muzika]

Not true. These are not greater in Ukraine.