[dwighttk]

> Basically, if we want to transition to a carbon neutral world, it is going to require a lot of people investing/purchasing projects/goods that do not make sense economically and might not initially be carbon neutral after accounting for embodied energy.

Large shifts like that don’t occur from people wasting money they have left over after entertaining themselves, they occur because the new way is much cheaper and the old way can’t compete.

[BizarroLand]

The current situation is like a fishhook with many barbs. You can't go back without ripping your skin to shreds, so even though it hurts almost as bad, to minimize damages you have to push forward, embedding more hooks into your already wounded skin, in order to get to the smooth part of the hook so you can push it out and be done with it.

Too many people get hung up on the idea of pulling out the hook (the current carbon-positive processes that we use) and not about the ultimately least painful and most successful way of removing the hook (pushing forward with pressure to transition to carbon-negative systems even if in the in-between time that causes more carbon to be released into the atmosphere)

We would generate a ton of carbon to build and roll out an EV replacement for every ICE vehicle on the planet, not to mention the extraordinary expenses of generating enough electricity and charging plants for them.

If that were done in an amazing single year by military force or something, it would be the year of the most carbon production ever on the planet.

But the centuries afterwards with the extraordinary reduction in Carbon Dioxides and Monoxides and other exhaust gasses would be worth it, right?

That's the plan, work over time, get better every day, little by little, don't worry about perfection, focus on drawing closer to good enough.