[keymone]

Zelensky was talking about an attack that happened within hours of his message, can't blame him for fog of war. And he didn't call for violence but for response from international community, which frankly he has every right to do when fascist invaders are taking over major nuclear power plants in your country, don't you think?

You seriously bringing up that example in contrast to russian propaganda machine weaponising a completely fabricated story about crucified boy, with intention of evoking deep emotional response and getting separatists to start fighting?

[shabier]

> can't blame him for fog of war

That's exactly what you should, though. Especially if you're in his position, where the smallest wimp is taken as fact.

> And he didn't call for violence but for response from international community

What exactly would you think the "response" would be if the nuclear plant was actually bombed? You don't have to be a geopolitical expert to know it is violence.

> You seriously bringing up that example in contrast to russian propaganda machine weaponising a completely fabricated story about crucified boy, with intention of evoking deep emotional response

Have you been following the news? Western media is doing exactly that with recent events like the snake island "heroes"?

[caeril]

> fascist invaders

Given Putin's ties with Israel and the enormous Nazi problem in Ukraine, it seems that describing the invasion as "fascist" is really skirting the line of absurdity.

[keymone]

there is no "enormous nazi problem in ukraine", that is literally russian propaganda. there is much larger nazi problem in russia in fact, from existence of radical far-right groups all the way up to concentration camps for gays in Chechnya. i suggest you re-evaluate your sources.

russian invasion can't be called anything other than fascist - military glorious leader annexing a chunk of neighbour's territory under justification that people there are compatriots that need saving. you can't make that shit up.