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by dustintrex 1564 days ago
The article does not mention this, but it's quite probably the unvaccinated child in question is from the fast-expanding Hasidic community in Jerusalem, many of whom are strongly anti-vax. This has led to measles outbreaks in the past in NYC as well, and the community was also hit especially hard by COVID.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/opinion/my-fellow-hasidic...

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There's a decently populous anti-vax vegan community too.
Many vaccines aren't vegan-friendly (they're often grown in eggs), and pretty much all of them go through animal testing stages during clinic trials. It's not at all surprising that vegans would be anti-vax.
By this logic, should we consider antivaxers as people-friendly, because fetal tissues are used in vaccine development?
> Many vaccines aren't vegan-friendly (they're often grown in eggs)

Do these vegan anti-vaxxers have an issue with aborting humans still in the “egg-stage”?

From discussions with vegans I've known, the objection to eggs and dairy is largely based on the (mis) treatment of the animals as part of industrial scale production. It's not (usually) a mystical belief about the sanctity of some life essence - more about observable apparent suffering.
Children aren't vegan-friendly either, and the vaccines in question are mostly for children, so does it really matter?
Children aren’t vegan-friendly, please explain?
Unless carefully managed, a vegan diet has a chance of lacking some critical nutrients for the development of young children. I think a vitamin B12 deficiency is common.
Thats the same for any infant diet, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Second, breastfeeding is vegan too (if the mother consents ;) ).
B12 supplementation is recommended for a vegan diet at any age. Besides that, I'm not sure what you mean by careful management. Eating a normal varied diet where the proteins come from plant sources gets you covered.

Where I live, a vegan diet is recognised as part of the official dietary recommendations for children, and is provided also in schools and kindergartens: https://www.ruokavirasto.fi/en/themes/healthy-diet/nutrition...

My ex had the same issue while on a vegan diet - and she was an adult. Random dizzy spells and faintness to the point of almost passing out.

It boggles my mind anyone would ascribe to a diet that literally requires vitamin supplements through artificial means in order to be complete. And those are just the obvious deficiencies.

I think they refer that humans are mammals, and young mammals feed on milk, by definition. And milk isn't vegan.
Cannibalism is frowned upon regardless of your lifestyle choices.
According to the Israeli ministry of health the kid got infected with the virus from the vaccination that includes a living weak virus, a vaccine that is not given in many countries and have been not given in Israel for almost 20 years. The decision to give the weakened virus was based on live viruses found in the sewage of Bedouin community in Rahat.

Also the ultra orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are pro-vaccine and the number of the anti-vax people among them is much lower than the anti-vax secular people in Israel.

Being anti vaccination is fine, it's a human being's right to choose, I only ask they let me know ahead of time if possible of their position.
I think I agree with you insofar as adults are concerned, but this child was not given that opportunity. This is what polio does: (https://polioeradication.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/unsp...). Inflicting this on a child is quite ruthless.
I don’t believe the child chose their vaccination status.
Endangering other people is not fine even if it's in your every right to do so.