[saila]

Your reply here comes across as reactionary and rather condescending but really doesn't address anything I said.

Nowhere did I say the U.S. is worse than anywhere else nor did I imply perfection exists or even could exist.

I was responding to someone talking about "the west," and I have a U.S.-centric perspective because that's where I'm from.

It's quite obvious that tribalism will always be a thing (to some extent), but I strongly disagree that tribalism → modern identity politics.

[bilbo0s]

What is modern identity politics but a big word that academics and élites dreamed up for tribalism?

You may believe they are different because your ideology needs for you to believe they are different. But at heart, there is no difference. Using terms like "modern identity politics" just allows you to discuss the topic in academia and polite society. On the streets, when the tiki torches, rifles, and baseball bats come out, it really is just tribalism. Different tribes going at each other precisely because they are each the "other".