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by _8j50 1568 days ago
Informed or not, they were not allowed to give consent. No problem with people consenting to be tracked.
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Please, no more annoying popups asking me if i want to accept cookies or be tracked. I am in the ‘do not care’ camp and i just want to be able to visit sites without having to click accept every time.

These consent banners are a false sense of privacy. People who “dont know” are most likely just going to give consent anyway. It’s the same thing as TOS consent.

It would be nice if we could get standardized browser headers similar to DNT that sites could use to automatically fill those things out for us. A standardized set of bit flags like { third party, first party, none } versus { all, only necessary } versus { trackers, cookies, ... } that could go in a "data processing consent header" or some such.

Then you would only see those popups if either your browser or the website didn't support or wasn't sending those headers for whatever reason.

How is all/only necessary not the fucking DNT header already.

We have and had a standardized way of indicating consent. They just decided to ignore it.

> These consent banners are a false sense of privacy.

They are also a set of dark patterns. They annoy you so you just click OK, they make it sound like if you want to opt out you're the unreasonable one, and they hide the options as best they can. Sometimes they hide them entirely.

If they weren't intent on tracking and reselling that data, they wouldn't need to ask. They don't need to have these dialogues, that is their choice.

> They are also a set of dark patterns.

Which aren't compliant with the GDPR, the regulation they're pretending to comply with. The problem is enforcement has been severely lacking and the regulators are useless at handling complaints even when you do waste hours submitting one.

People give consent all the time when it is still bad for them. It is a moral question in the end, the same way, we can say people consent to selling their body for sex, but have made it illegal, or say people consent to gambling knowing the odds put them at a disadvantage every single bet, or how people consent to credit card debt at insane rates not knowing just how much they are being taken advantage of. Consent matters, but in the end it's what we all believe should be tolerated from an ethical standpoint. Personally I see many issues with data collection and data sharing, even if not malicious, but that give the opportunity to be abused by others with a grudge or agenda I might not support. Not just banking information, but location data, purchasing history, and more. I'm not saying every has enemies out there but if anyone wanted to cause harm with that information they could.