[eesmith]

The "requirement for them to hear the asylum case" is the obligation on Mexico ONLY IF someone applies for asylum.

Asylum seekers are NOT REQUIRED to apply for asylum in the first country they get to.

> If they did not file for refugee status then they are simply illegal aliens in Mexico.

That is not correct.

Just how do you think they get on the plane without a visa or visa waiver?!?

They apply for a tourist visa, which is easier to get for Mexico than for the US. They are in Mexico, legally, then travel to the US border to apply for asylum.

[yucky]

Since they filed for tourist visas under false pretenses then they are in Mexico illegally.

[eesmith]

Please point to the relevant section of Mexican law before you claim something is illegal.

Furthermore, for all you know, every single one of them could have answered the question "Por qué motivo viaja a México?" with "Para solicitar asilo en los EE.UU." And been allowed entry telling the truth.

[yucky]

By definition you can't meet the requirements for a tourist visa if you're seeking asylum as a refugee (see economic solvency requirements, job/address, etc.). And lying on federal immigration paperwork is in fact a crime in Mexico as it is in every nation on earth, so I would advise you to speak with an attorney that specializes in that area for potential punishments.

[eesmith]

Where is that definition? I cited sources, so surely you can too.

Clearly they got a visa, so were sufficiently able to demonstrate the certificate of employment and bank statements. No part of the definition of "refugee" requires they be penniless and unemployed.

Which law are they breaking?

Again, why do you know they lied? Do you have evidence?

And, does it matter? Obrador has said Mexico will grant asylum status to Ukranian and Russian refugees. https://fronterasdesk.org/content/1760627/mexico-says-its-pr...

And the US has no restrictions on accepting refugees that have already been granted asylum elsewhere, excepting when there's an Asylum Cooperative Agreements. (The law is at https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/... .) And there is no Asylum Cooperative Agreement for this situation.

So, flee to Mexico with a tourist visa, request asylum, get accepted. Travel to the US. Cross the border. Request asylum.

I've cited my sources showing every step appears to be legal.

What is your goal in continuing this conversation? Keep Ukrainian refugees out of the US? Learn more about international refugee law?

[yucky]

>Obrador has said Mexico will grant asylum status to Ukranian and Russian refugees

That's wonderful news, so it sounds like this is a moot argument. There is no reason for them to request asylum in the US now. This is a problem solved :)