[jterrys]

>In the spirit of adult conversation: 1990s enlargement of NATO was and is 90%+ popular in these countries. Exactly because we knew Russia will at some point try to recreate USSR/Tzar Russia/whatever the new name is. Russian elites think they have "the right" to govern these lands (go read Dugin if you disagree). And Russian government after fall of USSR means limited democracy at best, authoritarian government most likely, totalitarianism at worst.

It's kind of interesting that a lot of young western politicians and intellectuals don't realize that the elites and rulers of Russia didn't magically disappear after the collapse of the USSR. They were still there, under different official names and titles. Which is why everyone was so fucking skeptical.