[quyleanh]

I see people, government, corporation, media... say about "No war", say about they want peace. But their actions is actually spreading feud, tbh.

Media is manipulated by government for their politics. Some people are forcing their own viewpoint to others. People blindingly spreads hates without deeply thinking. Many users from social platforms think they know very well about politics and say like a professor when arguing with others.

Such a crazy time.

[xdennis]

This is a ridiculous false equivalence.

* Russians are bombing civilians, infrastructure, power plants, &c

* We using sanctions and cutting of Russian influence.

These are in no way the same, and you can't say we're "spreading feud" when they're giving 15year prison sentences for saying the word "war".

[odessacubbage]

>bombing civilians

https://archive.ph/UkIMn

>infrastructure, power plants

https://archive.ph/YIxcH

>they're giving 15year prison sentences for saying the word "war"

https://balkaninsight.com/2022/03/01/czechia-mulls-penalisin...

sounds like reddit better start censoring .com/.gov/.us/.cz links

[fourtrees]

Yes, but that's the good propaganda, violence, erasure, and censorship though. Promoting it protects liberal westerners from the complicated tasks of basic research, historical knowledge, critical thinking, and the potentially complex and appalling realization that states and their actions --even democratic ones, from the Melian massacre to extraordinary rendition-- exist on a spectrum of good and evil. Our good propaganda, ect. saves citizens a ton of intellectual effort which is clearly better spent somewhere else. Let freedom ring undulled by the complicated.

Honestly, this whole thing reminds me a bit of the Lusitania and the way England manipulated US opinion (not saying war wasn't justified). The US and UK governments denied the ship carried munitions for close to 100 years. It was a German attack on a peaceful vessel, period. The wreck was found in the 80s, and divers were told to be careful surveying the wreck given its cargo. Later, the cargo was of course revealed to be high explosives and tons of rounds of ammunition, making it fair game for U-boats and causing the deaths of thousands (?) of travelers as a result... best of all, the German government had published warnings of the risk of traveling into a war zone in American papers.

In short, take all news with a grain of salt. The good guys are usually the ones publishing.

Addendum: I do support the Ukraine whole-heartedly; I hope this results in a free Ukraine and a new Russia.

[8note]

Spreading feud is not going to war. There is no response to war that isn't going to spread feud. If the west allowed or pressured zelensky to step down or surrender, discord would still be sown, just with the Ukranian people instead of Putin

[thetinguy]

No to war is also no to putin’s propaganda