[mdoms]

Here in New Zealand a gang member was shot to death and was recorded as a covid death because he tested positive posthumously. This is apparently in line with international practices. If you don't see the absurdity in that then I don't know what to say.

[dzhiurgis]

I assume it’s this story https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/11/new-lynn-shooting-victim-...

It’s not really true if you read further into it. Think about it - if you get nasty infection while under surgery - was cause of death surgery or infection.

[mdoms]

I have looked into it, and what I said is absolutely true. From your linked article,

> "The clinical criteria will continue to be guided by WHO definition which is basically to report any death where the person had an acute Covid-19 infection regardless of what the cause of death might be," Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield told RNZ.

The death was reported as a "death with covid" in accordance with WHO guidelines. Again, if you don't see the absurdity then you can't be helped.

> Think about it - if you get nasty infection while under surgery - was cause of death surgery or infection.

How on earth is this relevant? The victim was not showing symptoms and did not undergo surgery.

[dzhiurgis]

As I said - read further - they confirmed later by a coroner.

[lupire]

You two are disagreeing because the article is terribly ambiguous on the key question about "acute COVID" and "cause of death".

[mdoms]

You're missing the point. The case was still counted in covid stats, because that is the accepted method from the WHO.

[R0b0t1]

It's important to record died with covid. We might later find out there's a mental component. Maybe he experienced covid madness and undertook riskier behavior.

There is still the determination that he was shot, so it's not like we are going to forever think these deaths were just attributed to covid.

[LAC-Tech]

Covid helping to do the job our police and military can't.