[latte2021]

But in none of the responses is any large scale sustainable solution. In an ideal world, yes, everyone will use federated solutions. But articles like these are not helpful unless a mass market solution is done or proven.

Even jitsi cannot federate with bigbluebutton.

Though I like email, mailing lists and matrix(element) etc but world is pragmatic: workplace use of slack to whatsapp to signal or google docs.

It has become a habit to post in hn

1. DIY mailserver 2. Photos hosting 3. K8S

but people need to know Infamous Dropbox comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

[simfree]

Jitsi can connect with most SIP servers, there are even videos on YouTube of people doing this.

The ecosystem is moving, but Signal is falling behind as said ecosystem moves. Way more resources are flowing into making Matrix good than are funding Signal and XMPP, to their detriment.

[latte2021]

Ideally please bookmark your comment. Lets wait for a couple of years.