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by jVinc 1564 days ago
What exactly is the bikeshed here? Naturally Python doesn't use the newest standards the second they are released because that would be chaos. So they need to consider when they use newer standards. In this case they found bugs and had a discussion that ended in everyone supporting adopting a newer standard.

What exactly do you feel is the "which color should the shed be" point of this discussion?
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morelisp 1564 days ago
> What exactly do you feel is the "which color should the shed be" point of this discussion?

I thought it was extremely clear from my comment. "Will requiring IEEE 754 make Python less appealing?"

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troutwine 1564 days ago
Leaving aside whether this is a bikeshed or not, I'm not at all surprised that a community that passed through the 2->3 project would subsequently be concerned about even the barest repeat of that.
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DrewRWx 1564 days ago
This is a very good point. At my workplace we haven't had a 2->3 level project event, but our discussions _are_ always shaped and influenced by not only how previous agreements have worked in practice, but also how previous discussions (and arguments) leading up to those agreements played out.

It is to the point that a sizable amount of my value is derived from being having been around long enough with my ear to the ground to be able to recount the logic behind arguments from each side and giving recommendations on how to broach remaining tensions.

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tzot 1563 days ago
At work we had a very-late-technical-debt-move from “Python 2.7/Django 1.7” to “Python 3.8/Django 3.2” (with lots of associated libraries moving forward too) and we managed to reach a point where our codebase was common and functioning in either environment; the process was… bloody, to say the least, and obviously I wouldn't wish for others to ever have to go through a similar ordeal, but it was feasible.

In any case, I don't think that in the Python ecosystem there will ever be another jump of the same magnitude as 2 to 3.

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tzot 1564 days ago
The quote was:

> "The more 'it's-only-Python-if-it-has-X' restrictions we have, the less appealing we become."

We the Python language?

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