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by plugger 1568 days ago
I understand what FEIE is. but as you said, it's the first $112k. BUT, you still have to file every year, which incurs a time and financial penalty. W2 forms aren't designed for mere mortals to fumble their way through, so most outsource it to a tax accountant at a financial cost. Also, tax accountants abroad that specialise in US tax law are both rare and expensive.

> medicare/caid tax so you still pay some

exactly. You're still 'on the hook' annually to pay for subpar services you'll most likely never use, assuming they exist when you're eligible for them.

> I'm sure citizenship is worth at least $88000 per year to most people.

I'm sorry, but that makes me laugh HARD. By your math I would have paid approximately $1.9 million dollars in the past 21 years just to hold the US passport I might have used 10-15 times in that timeframe to gain entry to the US. Do you honestly think the right to visit the US 15 times over 2 decades is worth $2 million USD? Especially when you can visit the US without a US passport fairly easily (assuming you're not a cryptobro acting like a fool?).

Full disclosure, I'm a US expat who's lived in Australia for over 20 years and was granted Australian Medicare YEARS before I was a permanent resident.

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That’s great you’ve found a home in a country with similar security and stability to the US. None of what I’m saying matters to you because you found a new home to pay taxes to.

There’s no good reason for you to keep your US citizenship just like there’s no good reason for the average Australian citizen to gain US citizenship.

This is in the context of digital nomads who probably aren’t seeking citizenship in Australia or a similar country.

Ending US citizenship purely for tax avoidance without considering FEIE (like this article does) aimed at a target audience of young people who probably don’t know much about where they are going or how taxes work (digital nomads) is not smart.

If you make more than $100k a year a few hundred dollars a year for professional tax prep shouldn’t be a big deal. And the cost of tax preparation and advice is deductible.

US citizenship has benefits beyond the passport. What that is worth depends on the individual. People from all over the world wait years for US visas and work permits, so there’s some value and demand implied.

I have children and family in the US, so I don’t put a price tag on my passport. Any place desirable enough for me to get citizenship there and renounce my US citizenship is going to tax me too.

If it cost "a few hundred dollars a year" and less than 1 day of my time I would be ecstatic. That is nothing like what it actually costs.
I don’t know your situation. I pay around $250 for professional tax prep (CPA and IRS enrolled agent). TurboTax costs about half that. It takes me much less than a day every year, maybe two hours. People who have high incomes and complex tax situations can probably afford to have someone else deal with their taxes. Tax advice and preparation, either by a person or software, is deductible on your tax return.

Your mileage may vary, but for most people considering the digital nomad thing taxes are not complex or expensive. Very few nomads I met in six years traveling made a lot of money. Their main hassle was self-inflicted: not setting up a US address and keeping a US bank account before they went traveling.