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by dmz73 1573 days ago
That footage is not of a cluster bomb. Cluster bombs consist of many small bombs that spread over a large area and don't all detonate at once but instead detonate over longer period of time in order to maximize casualties and make area difficult to access https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_munition.

NATO used cluster bombs in the 1990s bombing of Serbia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%C5%A1_cluster_bombing. If it is a war crime now, it was a war crime then, where are the prosecutions of those responsible? It has been 20 years and I don't see anyone being held accountable.

I think we are now seeing a clearer picture of what happens when there is a conflict in an urban area. In the past we got to see a video from a plane guiding a bomb to the building from above (Iraq wars) and assumed it was an isolated military installation. Then we saw news footage of residential buildings in various states of destruction and just never associated that with the above video of bombs dropping on buildings. If you drop bombs near residential area, there will be destruction in that residential area. Look at what truck bomb did in Oklahoma City bombing - that was one makeshift (but large) bomb that detonated outside a building and according to Wikipedia "The blast destroyed or damaged 324 other buildings within a 16-block radius, shattered glass in 258 nearby buildings, and destroyed or burned 86 cars".

Maybe this war will finally get people to see how destructive and wasteful they are but somehow I doubt it.

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> I think we are now seeing a clearer picture of what happens when there is a conflict in an urban area

Now? Have you heard of Stalingrad?

The problem with history lessons is that pictures are b&w and static so it seems like it was all over long time ago and now we are OK. The problem with Iraq and Syria is that they are over there where wars always happen so it's nothing unexpected to westerners (whose governments probably had a role in starting those wars). Even Yugoslavia was 30 years ago and back on Balkans so who cares (I am from there and I do care). With Ukraine at least some Europeans are now getting an idea how bad war is but I suspect a lot are still ignorant and cheer for fighting to continue until "victory".

THERE IS NO VICTORY FOR REGULAR PEOPLE IN THESE CONFLICTS. THEY LOST EVERYTHING.

It seems to be impossible to explain to most people that war is bad for them and the only people who "win" are the politicians and their rich sponsors. I will count myself lucky if I manage to die before we get into a nuclear war.

I don't speak for GP but I think they mean "clearer picture" as in: literally live-streaming the frontline, in HD, worldwide.
> I think they mean "clearer picture" as in: literally live-streaming the frontline, in HD, worldwide.

We have to understand this before we can cope with what is happening? Asking a bit much, in my opinion.

And have you perhaps heard: Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.