[pinephoneguy]

Housing in SF is crazy expensive, commuting takes ages (and we've shown it's a complete waste) and a lot of people probably don't even want to live in California.

Forget snacks, the amount of money you save by not living there and not commuting could pay for an in house chef.

[qbasic_forever]

If the last 3 years are any indicator, living in SF and the west coast in general means putting up with 2-3 months of choking, dangerous wild fire smoke every year too. It was a novelty for one summer but is slowly going to poison and cause serious long term harm the more it continues. I don't think people realize how unlivable the west coast is quickly becoming.

[Psyonic]

This year, the smoke from the California fires was actually much worse in Colorado & Utah than the bay area proper. You can't necessarily escape this by moving.

[jeffbee]

True, but it's going to be bad some years. This year I expect an outright disaster, considering we've had the driest winter in 150+ years of recorded history. Probably it's going to be unbreathable at certain points.

[pinephoneguy]

On rethinking my statement I've realized I should encourage the Californians to stay in California and not spread communism to the rest of the country. So yeah, you can't escape the bad things by moving, stay there.