[jimbob45]

I think you might be onto something. MS' C#, which is a near 1:1 copy of Java and what it aims to accomplish, has never suffered the same issues as Java's JRE. You have to wonder if that's because MS gets away with baking CLR updates quietly into Windows whereas JRE updates are more difficult to deploy.

[ethbr0]

The incentives were always misaligned for a third party framework like Java, even from someone as big as Sun, and now Oracle.

Java was never going to be able to keep up a reasonable native UI binding, because OS vendors were at best ambivalent and at worst actively hostile, because there was nothing in making it work that benefited them.

Security without centralized platform control (e.g. Windows Update, AppStore, Play) was likewise an excercise in futility.