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by random314 1570 days ago
I confused you with the OP. Unfortunately, I cannot edit my comment. Apologies for that.

Going back to the original comment- I was making it clear that nobody needs to pat someone on the back to figure out if they are brahmins - you can tell from the last names.

I dont really know the castes of my friends except Brahmins, because they keep informing me.

1. Tamil brahmins - any domestic post on Facebook has a reference to the "TamBram" community.

2. My manager informed me once that the reason he was light skinned while south Indian was because his ancestors were north Indian brahmins who moved to the south to work as priests. I never asked him about his skin color. He brought it up himself.

3. One of my peers - a maharashtrian brahmin explained to me how his particular brahmin subcaste was even superior to other brahmins because of some XYZ reason. I didn't know he was a Brahmin before this.

There are several more instances. Of course, there must be brahmins amongst my friends where I don't know about their caste. But the only friends who have brought up their caste voluntarily were brahmins.

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> Of course, there must be brahmins amongst my friends where I don't know about their caste. But the only friends who have brought up their caste voluntarily were brahmins.

Yes, this is called selection bias. In what context did your friends talk about their caste?

I'm still not sure what you suggest about people's last names. This is not unique, it's also true for the last names of all sorts of people who have faced discrimination or discriminated against others - "white" people can be eg. Jewish, Irish, Italian, Anglo, German etc and there are names common to each of those groups.

Asking people to change their names is quite a heavy lift and impractical - I know some parts of India have historically made it easy for people to drop their last names and move to a system similar to Iceland where each generation uses the their parents' names as their last name.

The point is that no one apart from brahmins amongst my colleagues and friends bring up their caste. And absolutely no one asks fhem about their caste. In my managers case he brought up his own skin color in the presence of several reports and segued into his caste.

And I have not asked anyone to change their name. All I did was refute the fake allegation against the Indian Christians patting the back of brahmins to figure out their caste. For anyone coming from India this is a hilariously absurd lie.

You didn't answer my question - in what context did this people mention their caste?
When people refer to themselves as TamBram, they are just referring to their heritage.

If you are offend by them carrying their tradition or culture that they have inherited for 100s of generation.

How would you then think of Indians named John or Mohamed? You know that, these political religions spread almost exclusively through violence and colonisation.

India is a strange country where it is ok to engage in hate against indigenous people/culture, yet political incorrect to even speak of the violent history of Christianity or Islam.

You are perhaps engaging in the same kind of hate the Nazis spread of the jews.

> You know that, these political religions spread almost exclusively through violence and colonisation.

This is again pseudo history peddled by the RSS. Another instance of Hindu exceptionalism. This is completely counter to actual history and is a lie propagated by the Indian right wing. You should talk to an actual historian instead of relying on WhatsApp forwards by RSS.

> You are perhaps engaging in the same kind of hate the Nazis spread of the jews.

Re: Godwin's law.