[VictorPath]

Who was handing out cookies in Maidan Square during the Euromaidan? Just the tip of the iceberg of the outside help.

In another forum, someone said to watch for the coming "let's roll" vignettes. Of course they were right, the US corporate press seems to be looking for narratives of heroic Ukrainian resistance, whatever the evidence - the defiant Snake Island defenders (who there later emerged video of them surrendering and Ukrainian officials saying they may still be alive), the Ghost of Kyiv fighter ace (who does seem like an actual ghost) and on and on. Of course it's difficult to verify the facts of these heroic narratives spun from rumor and propaganda during the fog of war, where the first casualty is the truth.

There are also many reports from almost the first day about how the Russian military is on its last legs and so forth, which sounds absurd. There may be one or two small there's there, but from US corporate media reports you'd think they were on the verge of defeat. Kind of like how the NLF were said to be on their last legs in 1968, prior to the Tet Offensive.

[acdha]

> Who was handing out cookies in Maidan Square during the Euromaidan? Just the tip of the iceberg of the outside help.

Yes, who was? (Hint: not the CIA)

You’re talking about Victoria Nuland, who was assistant Secretary of State at the time. She visited the protests at the time her boss was decrying the treatment of protesters and openly voiced support for democracy as opposed to how Yanukovich’s government was treating them. She helped distribute food – the cookies claim is a tell that you spend a lot of time consuming Russian propaganda since they’ve tried to spin this as America wanting compliant Ukrainian lapdogs - but that’s hardly a secret: all of this was in public in her official capacity, hardly some shadowy CIA plot.

[VictorPath]

> the cookies claim is a tell that you spend a lot of time consuming Russian propaganda

It's not a claim, there's video of her doing it. So "Russian propaganda" means a video of a US assistant of secretary of state handing out cookies in the Maidan Square where the Azov battalion etc. were overthrowing the elected Ukrainian government.

[acdha]

> It's not a claim, there's video of her doing it.

This is what I was referring to earlier: she gave out food, as was reported at the time, but the Russian sources you appear to be repeating LOVE to describe it as cookies for some reason and have continued doing so for years. Nobody else does that because it's an absurd thing to be upset about in any case: a U.S. State department official tours a rally in support of pro-democracy demonstrators is hardly unexpected and if it was something shameful as implied they wouldn't have done it in front of a ton of reporters. (… and, if you recall we were talking about a CIA conspiracy theory when they rarely do things literally in the public square using real names)

Similarly, it's pretty telling that you try to link this to the Azov battalion rather than the groups which actually lead the protests and you continue to characterize it using the terms which the Russian state media favor rather than how most independent observers do.