[caslon]

I don't live in China. The Chinese are many miles away. I am not worth nuking, and I am not at risk of being involved in a genocide.

I live in a surveillance state. I don't really like being surveilled. Big companies share data between each other, and it influences my ability to do things like obtaining a house, or getting insurance.

The Chinese have nothing to do with my data. Western companies, on the other hand, can make a good deal of profit from data in aggregate, and don't care if it harms other people.

The Chinese stick to their own people (and what they believe to be China). Western companies, on the other hand, will track everyone on the globe, without any consent at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearview_AI

I don't use Chinese software; it's just that the person's claim isn't nearly as insane as you're making it out to be. They're acting more rationally than you are, here. It's not Chinese scaremongering or anti-anti-Chinese scaremongering to acknowledge that China can't really do much to the average Western citizen in aggregate.

[starfallg]

Short term thinking at its worse. China isn't going to stop at its borders. Their tech companies not only answer to their government, they are just as greedy western big tech, if not more. Your info is going to be sold to the highest bidder, plus shared with the Chinese government.

[caslon]

"You're thinking short-term and you're bad for it. Here's a bunch of unfounded speculation, and I'm going to throw in "plus shared with the government," despite your information already being shared with the United States government, which isn't at risk of collapsing any time soon, and will never be part of China, nullifying the risk of your data being taken by the Chinese government."

[starfallg]

That's not the point I was making.

Why do you think the Chinese tech companies are any better than western ones with your data? They have the same pressures of producing profit.

[xibalba]

The CCP has long been building a database on people in all countries of strategic interest (U.S., UK, Austrlia, India, etc etc). And not just the prominent people. All the people. [1][2][3][4][5]

But hey, tell us again how China is only interested in the Chinese.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-a-...

[2] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/china-spent-years-coll...

[3] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg89aj/china-has-been-doing-...

[4] https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/94493-china-has-st...

[5] https://www.npr.org/2021/02/24/969532277/china-wants-your-da...

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