[melling]

i already made my suggestion and it wasn’t “throw up your hands and say there’s nothing more we can do”

“…perhaps discussing real solutions would be more beneficial?”

Maybe we come up with nothing but tens of thousands of lives could be saved if we think of something.

A week from now the world is going to wish it had done more.

[rimunroe]

"Discussing real solutions" sounds about as substantial a suggestion as "throw your hands up and say there's nothing more we can do". People are already talking. It's not suggesting anything more concrete than what's already being done in this conversation.

[melling]

we turned this into a childish discussion on the internet.

Tens of thousands of Ukrainians will be dead within a week.

[mynameisvlad]

Who, exactly, do you think the “we” is in this scenario?

You’re the one that came in complaining about how nothing is being done and offering a suggestion of… talking, which is what is already happening.

When people rightfully pointed this out to you, you suddenly involved “we”. You’re the one that has instigated this meta-discussion, and you just don’t like that people called you out on it.

[melling]

Nah, i’ve got a thick skin. I’ve been on the Internet for over three decades. I’ve been doing this since the Usenet days.

I’ll let you guys get back to saying how bad the Russians are for using Google maps. Forget I even brought up the brainstorming idea.

Quite honestly I should have know people would go with “you first”. But when I go with “me first” people spend the entire time talking about how it’s a bad idea, missing the point completely

A lot of people here probably don’t even remember the Cold War.

It’s all about to get pretty real.

Considering all the people who are going to die, I had to try.

[mynameisvlad]

"Trying" is actually brainstorming. Telling people that they're not helping and that they should brainstorm instead is not "trying".

At best, it's yelling from the sidelines that nothing is getting done and everyone should feel bad.

[hedora]

I mean this conversation could go somewhere. I'm sure someone here can get access to the maps backend and redirect a few missiles if the rumors are true. This crowd is probably 99th percentile in working out the details.

(That is to say, probably not competent at it, which is better than "definitely not")

Also, you can bet concrete actionable suggestions made here will bubble up to silicon valley execs by the morning.

[mynameisvlad]

So your suggestion is to just…. Talk about something else?

Cool, can’t wait to see the thread you start discussing these important things.

[tenuousemphasis]

Literally all you're doing is meta-complaining, you're not offering any solutions either. Now you've forced me to meta-meta-complain.

[verve_rat]

Fine, you start. What is your first idea for discussion?

[darkerside]

Your answer is to talk about. So, talk about it.

Or are you saying someone else should solve this for you?